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    I have decided to make a start at getting a permanent residence card.  People say you can’t do it online but need to go to the Prefecture in person but you need an appointment to do so.  I find no info on the St. Brieuc Prefecture website about residence cards for etrangers in fact there is nothing about how to get an appointment either.  I did notice this, “Ouvert du lundi au vendredi de 09:00 heures à 12:15 heures et de 13:15 heures à 16:15 heures  Accueil fermé le jeudi matin pour le service des étrangers”   Does it mean that the place is closed Thursday morning to foreigners, or open for foreigners only?  So do I have to go there (on whatever day) to ask for an appointment to go back to apply for the card?           Why the hell can’t stuff like this be straightforward? :wacko:   :wacko:

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    #395556

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    It is if you speak French! ;-)

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    #395558

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    That’s the problem.   :scratch:

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    I would read that as the service for foreigners is closed on a Thursday morning Sh-sh so you should be okay for all the other days at the times stated. Is there a phone number? We went there for ours but I can’t remember if we made an appointment first or not – sorry that isn’t much help!

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    #395576

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    Yes, there is a phone number but language is the problem so its a no go over the phone.  I was hoping for an email approach.

    Some people have posted that you can only see someone by appointment.

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    http://www.cotes-darmor.gouv.fr/booking/create/30454/0

    This is the one you have to access, the site takes a bit of working out but it does work. There are blocks of calender dates which show available times and dates for appointments, just click on one convenient to you. ( Each twenty minute slot is for one person only, so a married couple will have to select two adjacent slots which will enable the interviewer to process both applications most efficiently. Each person must supply copies of required documents, so that is an awfull lot of paperwork, Also, it wasn’t mentioned but we were asked for marriage certificate and copies.

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    Many thanks for the link.  That answers everything I need to know.  Cheers.  :good:

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    If I have played the game correctly on their website, and understood it,  there are no appointments available.  I think it says to try again “ultérieurement”.  This looks like being another epic battle.

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    At the bottom of the screen is this:-

    Choix de la nature du rendez-vous
    Que souhaitez-vous effectuer ? Guichet 1 – Demande de titre de séjour

    Guichet 2 – Demande de titre de séjour

    Guichet 3 – Demande de titre de séjour

    Guichet 4 – Demande de titre de séjour.

    Click on 2 , 3, or 4.

    They give a selection of dates and times that are available.

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    Shapeshifter, I have just checked,  you are quite correct, there are no vacancies at the moment.

    Looks like a game of patience is in order.

    I wish you the best of  luck.

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    Not being able just to phone up and ask etc., (because of language barrier), has been a ‘thorn in our sides’ since moving here. Also, trying to make ‘head or tail’ of what is being asked, is yet another ‘thorn in our sides’ since moving here. Know how stressful this all must be for you shape  :yes:

    At present, I am on holiday in an English speaking place and can’t believe how ‘easy’ life is when you can communicate.

    I am a person who loves banter with anyone, a thing I can’t have in france. I miss that so much. Can’t be the real person I am  :-(

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    If you are a member of AIKB , all you need to do is get in touch with Maggie who is the AIKB lynchpin/ Maggie will help and guide you thru any problems you have here – regardless of the problem she will do her best

    There is info which she will forward to you to help you access the online procedure for making a RDV, also she will advise on paperwork that is needed for your application for C de S

    Good luck

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    Hi SS

    I have sent you a private email

    Regards

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    Not being able just to phone up and ask etc., (because of language barrier), has been a ‘thorn in our sides’ since moving here. Also, trying to make ‘head or tail’ of what is being asked, is yet another ‘thorn in our sides’ since moving here. Know how stressful this all must be for you shape :yes: At present, I am on holiday in an English speaking place and can’t believe how ‘easy’ life is when you can communicate. I am a person who loves banter with anyone, a thing I can’t have in france. I miss that so much. Can’t be the real person I am :-(

    I fully understand what you are saying.  I know I am missing out on a lot because of language.  Both places I have lived here have been located on a main road and occasionally someone will stop and ask directions.  I’d love to offer help but usually can’t unless they speak slowly and their destination is somewhere close by that I have heard of.  I attended a language workshop for a while after first arrival but it got too expensive and became just a social gathering for expats to compare notes about fosse septiques, etc.  I’ve never been into hanging out in bars or pubs so apart from the occasional trip to Brico Depot there has been no urgent need for finely honed language skills.

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    Agree with you totally shapes

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    It seems that the French authorities are now overwhelmed by the number of Brits applying for CdS. It seems that, as we approach Brexit with grave doubts about the outcome of negotiations, apathy or indifference is being replaced by panic. Earlier comments from Brussels about protecting Brits living in France, and vice versa, may have created a false sense of security. Now the realisation that all could fall apart has led to a last minute mad dash. I have a gut feeling that there will be a last minute agreement, but who knows? Clearly the best time to apply for CdS was last year or even earlier.

    On the language aspect, I agree with SS that group French lessons tended to be nothing more than a ‘social gathering for expats to compare notes about fosse septiques etc”, which is why I gave up on them long ago. However, I do think that it is important that we should learn to communicate with our French hosts. Most of us used to say the same about immigrants coming to the UK. Now the boot is on the other foot. Geese and ganders! Any interview at your prefecture will be conducted in French, obviously.

    Many years ago my headmaster persuaded me that I should study French, and after 3 attempts I finally passed my O level. It fell short of conversational French, but it was a foundation, and some time after I arrived here I acquired the Michel Thomas CD course to help me improve. I now participate in many aspects of French life, which is why I came here in the first place.

    As for hanging out in bars, I have always resisted the temptation to visit the same bar more than once in any one day! But they are an ideal place to practice language skills, as well as getting to know the locals.

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    People may not like to hear this but if you move to another country then it is incumbent on you to have a working knowledge of the language of the country you are moving to After Brexit it may be that having a knowledge of French will be required so people need to knuckle down and learn French and not rely on friends neighbours groups etc And do you know what? You will get so much more out of your time in France

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     it is incumbent on you to have a working knowledge of the language

    I’m not sure what this means precisely. But if you apply for a CdS as a citizen of a third country, which the UK will be after Brexit, there is a requirement to have a working knowledge of the French language either by having a diploma or taking a test. There are also other conditions relating to health cover and financial resources that have to be satisfied. There is also a fee of 269€, which a citizen of an EU country does not have to pay. All of this may change in any agreement over Brexit.

    I’ll leave it for others to do more detailed research, as it doesn’t concern me.

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    In which case it might be better to bite the bullet and go for French naturalisation instead.  No language requirement if you are over a certain age.

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    It is not true that there is no language requirement for naturalisation if you are over a certain age. True, you do not have to follow an approved course of study and pass an exam at the end of it, but you still have to attend the prefecture for a formal interview at which you have to show that you ” être assimilé(e) à la société française, notamment par une connaissance orale suffisante de la langue, de l’histoire, de la culture, de la société françaises et des droits et devoirs conférés par la nationalité française ainsi que par l’adhésion aux principes et aux valeurs essentiels de la République (in brief, assimilated in French society, understand and respect the principles of the Republique, notably by sufficient knowledge of the language, culture, history of the country and the rights and duties of citizens). The interview is broken down in sections dealing with each aspect. You don’t have to be fluent, just have a good working knowledge. And the history and culture questions are quite simple, but the rights and duties form a significant part. At the end of it you are asked to sign the Citizens’ Charter.  It’s all set out here and here

    Needless to say, the whole interview is conducted in French, and in my case took the best part of 2 hours, which included handing over and double-checking my dossier. And the dossier contains so many documents. It will take you at least a month to prepare them.

    So no, it’s not an easy option, and it’s not available to those who can’t satisfy all of those conditions. If you don’t speak the language, forget it. You have to show commitment. Even if you have satisfied all the conditions, the minister can refuse to grant nationality. It certainly isn’t a case of filing the papers and getting them  rubber stamped.

    And as an alternative to a CdS, forget it unless you are quick. One of the requirements for naturalisation is  a CdS, except for EU citizens.

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    In Finistere (Brest sous prefecture), I applied on the 8th August and have been given an appointment for 30th October – so nearly three months. However I am waiting for my assimilation interview ( did the interview with the captain of the gendarmerie three weeks ago), so maybe that will come first.

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    Tony, I asked for appointment 03/06/2014 while in the prefecture for something else. The gent I spoke to (who also conducted the interview in due course) made an appointment for 25 September 2014, so for me it was best part of 4 months. I was finally granted citizenship 22/02/2016. The only hold-up that I am aware of is that in July 2015 they asked me for my ex-wife’s birth certificate. Don’t know why, because it isn’t listed anywhere, and we had been divorced 29 years.

    The interview with the gendarmes was a little bizarre. The officer conducting the interview asked me to show him on Google Earth where my house was because he couldn’t find it. When I directed him up a tiny tarmac lane, then off to the right down a track, and pointed to it, he said “That’s not route du XXXXXX”. I said that it was my postal address, and the number was on the gate post. He then started asking questions, many of which were in my application form. When I told him this, he asked if he could have a copy. That save a bit of time!

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    Shapeshifter, I’ve just been on the link posted by Motorcycliste above and have booked myself in for 27/09. There were plenty of free slots, I clicked on Guichet 2. Having done that on the spur of the moment I now need to find out exactly what I need to take with me.

    I shouldn’t be allowed on the internet unsupervised.

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    Probably the best way to do it, Tizzler, it makes you get on with it now you have an appointment. :good:

    As for needing supervision, most men do! :whistle:

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    My interview with the gendarmerie asked if he could have my mobile phone number, so that he could call on my services for when people can’t speak French but can speak English.

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