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    All the big guns are playing tomorrow in the autumn series.

    Wales – Australia

    England – New zealand

    Ireland – Argentina

    Scotland – Fiji

    France – south africa

    Whichever team you will be supporting and whatever games you watch I wish you all a great afternoon-evening of great rugger.

    England showed great resilience and tenacity to get the win against the boks last week who looked like the dominant side so both teams will have gained some confidence from their first encounter,which should mean that both france and the all blacks are going to have push themselves.

    Wales were very dominant against scotland with an excellent defense that will of had shaun edwards smiling after the game,whereas scotland were missing a couple of their quality players due to the match being outside of the international window and they missed those players,but they should be a much better team against fiji as wales will be against the walabies. wales normally lose the first game as we often start off against a quality southern hemisphere team that is on form after spending time together in the four nations,so starting with a win this year in the doddie cup ( god bless him , a great fella) should give us taffs a good bit of confidence against the aussies,though their last game in the bledisloe cup against the blacks was quite impressive.

    The french are yet to play so anything could happen,but plenty of young talent on the field for them and I am afraid to say that I have not had time to watch the Irish stateside slaughter of the italians,but would imagine that they are looking good. Also an argentinian side that managed to hold third place for a while in the four nations will have a lot of confidence too.

    Should be a superb days rugby for us all.

    enjoy xx

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    Any of them showing on French TV apart from the France v SA one? Would love to be in Cardiff myself.

    Ah damn, just remembered, I had an invite to go to see Wales v Aus with an Aus friend. Oh what a mistake  that was to pass it by. Damn damn damn.

    BTW, if your reading this G after I sent you the link, please sing in that stadium and raise a glass. I’ll be  there with you in spirit mate :yahoo:

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    Lots of rugby enjoy! 🏉

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    Yep, big weekend of rugby.

    Also playing are England v NZ in the rugby league third test at Elland Road on sunday plus France v Scotland tomorrow at Carcassonne.

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    Just a quick question, are the current series of matches in any particular competition, or is it simply to achieve a higher ranking on the international ladder?

    France 4  – channel 14 (or 714 for those with Orange tele) – has the female France vs New Zealand test match tonight, at 20.50.

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    @G, if you would mate, could you register and post a piccy here of you and all the guys and girls enjoying yourselves no matter what the outcome. It would make my day. Cheers. Your good  friend from Nag & Hiro .

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    Have never taken to the 13 game as I have the 15 Pete , but I still prefer it with comparison to most sports !!

    I think that I have hidden issues that came from the degradation of welsh rugby after the seventies with the mass exodus to league,maybe one day I will accept it for the great sport that I am sure in my heart that it is.

    I have two nephews that are playing internationally in the under 20’s in union who are playing league for one of the big teams ( I can not hink which one it is,but its either hull or wigan). At 16 yrs my sister was contacted by whoever asking her if she would sign a form for the twins to start practicing with the senior team. Even at that age they were being offered if I remember corretly about five k a month. I have never seen them play,but have heard they are quite something. Keep your eyes and ears open for the badham boys !!

    I have another nephew who is also aiming for test level referree too,and am proud of them all :-)

     

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    Just a quick question, are the current series of matches in any particular competition, or is it simply to achieve a higher ranking on the international ladder? France 4 – channel 14 (or 714 for those with Orange tele) – has the female France vs New Zealand test match tonight, at 20.50.

    I am quite sure that the rankings are not affected by the autumn series ( though do check),but it is just a good chance for the northern hemisphere sides to try and close the gap on the southern hemisphere teams , though with three european teams in the top four in the world rankings ( no need to guess who number 1 is ) there is not much to proove.

    With the world cup in Japan next year,it is a great time for the managers to start fine tuning their squads with real test match game ferocity to see who is ready to go for the big prize that is the webb ellis cup.

    Do take the word friendlies and throw it away as they are anything but that,even if there is still a great respect on the pitch.

    Thanks for the heads up on the feminine game this evening,I did not know it was on. I shall be wtaching it as after the last feminine world cup I have developped a great respect for their level of play.

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    I have it on good authority,  that  a certain person whom I have known for 35 years plus, is about to join the ranks.  This’ll be epic, and he is a truly great Aussie.

    Who will be at the Wales v Australia match tomorrow and is chastising me for not being there with him.

    They will need some extra beer at the stadium :yes:

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    Some excellent rugby played this evening in the France – new zealand game from the stade mayol in toulon where the black ferns beat france on the scorecard 14 points to zero,but on the pitch the game was quite even. An excellent effort from the french and a well reffed game by none other than sara cox !! No shame in that performance,I only hope that les bleus can do as well or better. King louis ( picamoles) shall cause the boks a few probs !!!!

    Thanks again vegemite kid for the heads up on tonights game,I would of missed it if it was not for you xx

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    We watched parts of it, Jamie, agree that the score didn’t reflect the match, but what a disappointment to see all the empty seats! Why couldn’t the men’s team have turned up to watch/support their female counterparts?

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    It was a shame to see the mayol looking that empty,but still a respectable sized crowd,especially as a lot of the locals will of gone up to paris to watch les bleus playing the boks tonight. If the lads were not playing this evening,I would imagine that there would of been many more bums on seats.

    It was a great advert for the womens game with a physicality level that was very impressive. There were some thumping tackles going in from both sides.

    My one critisism of the game was when one of the NZ girls went in hard with the shoulder and did not attempt to use her arms in the tackle and that should of been a red card,but sara cox just awarded a penality and not even a yellow.

    Apart from that one infraction I was hugely impressed with the quality of the game  :good:

    Just been down to the supermarket and am now stocked up with beer and snacks to get me through to 11 o clock this evening.

    Hope we all have a great oval feast today :-)

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    Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales-Wales,sorry,but delighted that we beat australia for the first time in ten years in a great battle of rugby today. A most excellent match and a fairly drunk Jamie ;-)

    It was a game that was not rich in tries,in fact there were none,with the only points comoing from the boot giving wales a victory of 9-6.

    The game was incredably hard fought with a back row battle that showed some amazing rugby froml both sides. I would say that I have never seen a battle as hard as that between what looked like the best 6,7 and 8’s in the world. Great sport and very exciting.

    I only caught the highlights of englands great efforts on the field and it was a shame to see them denied a win by sam underhill being just a foot or so off side,otherwise they could of got the win. They did have another chance to get the win,but made the bad decision of kicking into touch rather than going for the three points. shame ! final score Eng 15 – NZ 16

    Scotlands second half performance against fiji was very impressive with the scots running in 33 un-answered points over the last forty minutes giving them a safe 54-17 win and a big confidence boost.

    Ireland got the win over argentina 28-17 ,but did not see that so can not comment,but hopefully someone on this forum did see it and can share their thoughts.

    And poor old france dominated the springboks and looked like they were going to finally get a decent home win when being 26-22 up at the end of the game and then the south africans did the usual southern hemisphere trick of playing the game out with intelligence and sneaked in a converted try in the 85th minute. Great game closing tactics,but one had to feel sorry for les bleus.

    A most enjoyable day of good rugby,lots of beer and snacks and even a couple of visitors to the van to watch the end of the welsh game and the england highlights as they did not have satellite tv. With a nice fire burning and both a lovely toasty temperature and good vibe in the flying dragon,my friends did not want to leave. A pleasant evening was had by all.

    I hope that you all enjyed todays sport and wish you luck for next weekend.

    Love and light and nitey nite to you all

    Jamie xx

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    Oh yes,and sadly finishing on a sour note,it was a damn shame to here a bunch of oiks at twickenham singing over the top of the all blacks haka !!

    That mentality shows a big dis-respect and is not part of the oval spirit and only serves to get the english a bad name. Shame upon those who were involved !!

    However this was the only bad point of an otherwise positive days sport !

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    Just watched France beat NZ in the women’s tournament. WHAT a match! Congratulations to the French woman’s rugby team. Heroic performance. Final score France 30 NZ 27 :yahoo:

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    Congratulations Ireland on beating the All Blacks, this will make next year’s world cup soo much more interesting now. Raise a glass of the black stuff lads and take a bow.

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    Well done the paddies, great performance.

    England struggled for much of their game vs the Japanese side but won through eventually with a flattering score.

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    Its hard to say if european rugby is showing great progress or if the southern hemisphere teams are just not on form.

    I have certainly seen all of them play much better than they are at the moment,though I will say that the defences here in the northern hemisphere are looking much more solid.

    Indeed very well done to the french girls for that excellent performance.

    Huge congrats to Ireland for humbling the might of the blacks with a very solid performance.

    Delighted to see what was pretty much wales’s B team ( with a couple of good leaders thrown in ) put 74 points on the board. It has taken us a long time to get such depth in our squad.

    As pete said,Englands score was a bit flattering though I think that Eddie Jones knew what he was doing and played the strategy needed that eventually tired the Japaneses team,who yet again I give credit to for a gutsy and honourable performance.

    A couple of great tries from both sides in the murrayfield battle against the boks,and a tough game right through,it could of gone any way , but yet again the southern hemisphere showed that they know how to close out a game.

    France got a deserved win against Argentina although personally I think that although they got the result this week with a win,they played a much more organized game last week. A few french I have spoken with are now after one win fancying their chances for the world cup !!!!!!

    I wish you all a good week and hope that we all have a great end of the autumn series delivered to us next weekend. Needless to say four from four is my big hope as a taff :-)

    Oval love and light

    Jamie xx

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    Good to see the taffy win the darts championship at the weekend too. I can’t think of too mant top darts players from Wales since the golden days of the great Leighton Rees and Alun Evans etc

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    Oh yes,and sadly finishing on a sour note,it was a damn shame to here a bunch of oiks at twickenham singing over the top of the all blacks haka !!

    Not only me then thought it was a poor attitude. Trouble was Anne was out somewhere and I was able to crank the TV sound bar up to max in anticipation and these flipping morons spoilt it. :negative:

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    Yes but BE and Jamie was it  a let down because you were unable to hear the haka or because of any disrespect  towards the NZ people/team ?

     

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    As a once time regular at Twickenham (lived pretty close at the time) the Haka was performed what you might say, slightly “Amateur”, it has grown in to something rather grander in the last thirty years or so. Look back at old videos to see what I mean. I don’t see any disresepect by singing what is now the England “antherm” during a game. The Haka is not the Nationa anthem of  N.Z of course when it would have been seen as very disrespectful to sing Swing low…etc. My Nices kids sing God Save New Zealand at their school in Christchurch and on occasion God Save the Queen. We have seen other sides walk right up to the All Blacks during the Haka and stare back, remembering what the Haka stands for (once also used in peace, as well as their “own wars” but now just a ceremonial part of an All Black game) that was disrespectful. Was the fans chant stated as disrespectful by the commentators?
    God Defend New Zealand is one of two national anthems of New Zealand, the other being … “God Save the Queen” was New Zealand’s sole national anthem until the 1970s. In May … A public debate emerged after only the first Māori verse was sung at the 1999 Rugby World Cup match against England, and it then became thier anthem before All Balcks games.

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    I enjoy watching the haka spectacle and i’m bothered if I can hear it or not. In the good old days there were no microphones so I can’t see how the sound is that important anyway.

    Regarding respect, it’s not a national anthem so no disrespect shown IMO.

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    The haka as was, as I said a rather amateur haka.

     

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    And you think singing Sweet low….. is disrespectful? Even the New Zealanders  weren’t put out by this Irish response:

     

     

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    I personally have no problems with a team moving up against the haka as shown by the irish team there,the welsh before that and the french since. Richie mccaw ( ex nz captain ) said in an interview that he did not mind other teams stepping upto the challenge,after all why should we have the monopoly on intimidation !

    However the modern new zealand haka has become quite a spectacle and one that many people may only get one chance in their lives to experience. It is a damn shame that those people did not get to enjoy it for what it is,as well as the millions of tv spectators.

    I have spoken with a few other fans (most of which english) of the game about this singing over the haka and they all thought it was disrespectful.

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    Simple really, if the mics are aimed at the haka and not so much on the crowd, then those that like to hear the haka would hear it better. As I have said I have been to Twickenham on many occasions and indeed seen the haka performed from way back, the crowd are as entitled as the opposition to try and intimidate the All Blacks. Why anyone should think the haka is some kind of special religion or anthem is beyond me. It is little more than an act in rugby to intimidate the other side and there is no reason that any opposition should not challenge it, nor the crowd. You say you know others who agree with you, well I can assure you at the ground itself a whole lot more would agree with me than sorry, armchair judges sitting at home. The specators offer no disrespect at all from singing during the haka but not during the New Zealand anthem though and that is what counts surely.

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    Classic  :good:

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    I’ve been lucky enough to have seen it performed in NZ and thoroughly enjoyed it, what a shame a ceremonial act is disrupted in this way, no reason why it should be, I find it disrespectful.

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    Exactly JJ, couldn’t have put it better.

    National anthems should be respected, as they are in the main but a thing like the haka is a statement of intent which I believe can be challenged.

     

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