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    Anna Carrasco has just won the Supersport 300 World Championship, the first time a woman has ever managed it,  :yahoo:   :yahoo:

    Taking the men on in a very Male Enviroment and winning :yahoo:   :yahoo:

     

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    Well done that woman!

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    Brilliant news- excellent and well done

    Regards

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    Well done!

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    Go girl!  :good:

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    I seem to remember a lady from London by the name of Beryl Swain becoming the first lady to compete in the Isle of Man TT on a 50cc Itom in 1962. This resulted in the authorities banning lady riders until 1978 believing that motorcycle racing was too dangerous for women. Although the 50cc catagory was the smallest, it did provide engineers with the challenge of tuning these little engines to provide more and more power resulting in the 4 cylinder Honda engine (12.5cc per cylinder!!!) which had maximum revs of 18,000rpm. I think it also had 4 valves per cylinder. Then there was the Kriedler with its usable rev band of a few hundred rpm therefore needing 18 gears which was achieved with a 6 gear foot change and a 3 speed hand change. These little bikes were finally lapping the circuit at over 85mph.

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    We have driven around the TT circuit and it was hairy enough with a wheel at each corner!

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    The Isle of Man TT is dangerous full stop I reckon! Mad lot that compete in that!

    Well done that woman!

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    Hi Michael another was Olga Kevelos a works James Trials Rider, also of interest to you, she was Skipper of a London Barge during the War Years,Family friends included the Archer Sisters, who I believe still hold one of the Brooklands Lap Records, I think it was a New Imperial,

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    I was fortunate enough to live in the IoM from 1959 to 1963. Dad was in the RAF and was adjutant at the RAF camp at Jurby. The riders had to ask his permission to use the runways for their carburation trials. He always said ‘yes’ in return for their autograph and their lapel badge, for his son of course. I cycled the full 37 odd miles of the course when I was 12 – there were no pedophiles when I was a kid :-) . My school was inside the course which meant that we had the two weeks of the TT as holidays as we couldn’t get to school. Same for the Manx GP. The RAF had some radio masts on Snaefell alongside the course with some flat roofed buildings. Dad always managed to get the keys and the RAF families used to have a grandstand view of the racing from the roofs. That’s how I happened to see Beryl Swain race, the only women to ride in the TT before they were banned. Women that is :yahoo:   :yahoo:

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    Michael the first female to compete on the Isle of Man was Pat Swane in 1958 as passenger to Eric Oliver, I think she did 4 tt,s with him, as a side note I competed at the Silverstone High Speed Trials on a Itom from Alf Tooley, I have always been bit of a Large bloke, but at sixteen I was 5 foot nine and 13 stone, still can,t remember what posessed me,  it was the only time I went road racing, won a silver medal,  Scrambling was and still is a massive passion for me.

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    that should be Pat Wise, I should read my posting before posting

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    Morning Dilligaf. First, I think you and I should form a pub quiz team – we’d be unbeatable. :yahoo:   :yahoo:

    You’re right about Pat Wise but don’t forget Inge Stoll who was a passenger for Jacques Drion in the 1954 TT. I think she died in a racing accident a few years later. Also, as a matter of interest, I think Olga Kevelos partnered Pat Wise on an Ariel Arrow in the Thruxton 500 Endurance. Pat had a remarkable career and raced her own Manx Norton with some success.

    Do we agree that the Clypse Circuit used in the late fifties was only the opening act(!) before the Mountain Circuit came on stage? Now there’s a can of worms :good:

    What is important is that women have always been, I’m searching for the correct word, ‘achievers’, in what was  a ‘man’s world’. These days we seem to believe that women have been held back in some way. The so called glass ceiling has prevented them from achieving their true potential. However, if one looks back through history, women have always been ‘achievers’. I wonder if Boadicea complained about a glass ceiling :yes:   I worry that this current feeling that women have been ‘held back’, actually tends to diminish what they have achieved in the past.

    Anyway, do they have pub quizzes in France?  :yahoo:   :yahoo:   :yahoo:

     

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    I still remember as a very young kid, sitting with Dad Listening to the 1957 TT when the broadcaster said that Bob Mac had done the first 100 mph lap of the TT on the Gilera, we looked at each other in total disbelief, sure there had been a mistake made, but no it was official, I would love to take part in a pub quiz on Motorcycles.

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    Names to conjure with. I think it was the 1961 practice for the 500’s and I’d cycled down to Ballaugh Bridge to watch when it came across the tannoy that Bob McIntyre had broken down on the Sulby Straight a few miles up the road. He was riding one of the new Honda 4’s. At that time the Honda’s really were ‘dream machines’ when compared with the Manx Nortons, G50’s and 7R’s. I remember having to wait for the ‘Roads Open’ car to pass and then cycling furiously to the cross roads at Sulby to find the Honda lent up against the corner of the shop. My reward – a picture of the new Honda on my Brownie camera. I still have the photo.

    I must apologise for having hijacked this thread but I’m sure people realise that one only needs to read  couple of significant words and the memories come flooding back.

    I’ll keep my eyes open for a French pub that runs English quizzes about motor bikes  :good:   ;-)

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    It’s not exactly a hijack Michael as the subject is still about women motorcyclists and I, as a woman, am finding the discussions between yourself and dilligaf very interesting. I’ve never seen a woman in the Motogp, has there been? Is it specifically for male riders? Or have women just not been good enough to be considered?

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    I don’t think women are excluded from motor bike racing now as they used to be as the legal situation is very different but I can’t think of any ladies riding in the larger classes – super bikes, etc. The SuperSport 300 is a relatively new class and has only been around for a couple of years. I think you are allowed to ride one of perhaps half a dozen specific models between 300 and 400cc. They are lightweight bikes and aimed at youngsters coming into the sport and then progressing into the larger classes. I think there is a world of difference between these bikes and the big bikes seen at the TT, etc. I hate to say it and I’ll probably get shot down in flames but the big bikes are monsters and the people who ride them have my utmost admiration. I really don’t know how they do it. Just after the start line of the IoM TT there is a down hill section followed by an uphill section called Bray Hill. The big bikes are probably doing 130mph down the hill. As they pass the bottom and up the other side the suspension bottoms out, they often have a speed wobble with the front wheel going from side to side under the compression. When they’ve sorted this out they are coming over the top of the hill with the front wheel now in the air – I think its named Agostini’s Leap after the famous Italian rider. They then have to brake furiously with the back wheel coming up from the road to get around Quarter Bridge at perhaps 60mph. They’ve then got another 35 miles to go, followed by another 5 laps. I’m not sure that a lady could have the physical stamina to compete. Pat Wise, a lady sidecar racing passenger, mentioned earlier in this thread, was interviewed after one of the races and the reporter said he’d been told that she was throwing sweet wrappers out of the sidecar during the race. ‘Don’t be silly. I was far too busy doing my knitting’ she replied.  :yahoo:   :yahoo:   :yahoo:

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    ‘I wonder if Boadicea complained about a glass ceiling’

    She probably didn’t – glass hadn’t been invented back then…  B-)

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    It always amazes that there are seperate womans and mens Dart tournaments, are the Men that frightened of being beat by a Woman.

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    They have separate darts tournaments because ladies are far better at throwing things than men :yahoo:   :yahoo:   :yahoo:

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