Here we go again…..
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Yes it had to happen, the snowflakes are at it yet again.
https://www.rt.com/uk/500027-darwin-museum-colonialist-offensive/
Dear oh dear, where are we heading for ?
Pete, do you spend time on the internet looking for rubbish !
This is RT.
Quick! People might notice the government is losing it! Start a fake culture war and let the real snowflakes panic about statues!
Pete, do you spend time on the internet looking for rubbish ! This is RT.
Just heard the topic brought up on R4 and thought it may be of interest. Don’t waste time replying if you find the topic uninteresting
The idea is to stimulate discussion .
All an utter nonsense, History is the past, and should not be erased or forgotten, it is what it is, for right or wrong, the best thing we can do is look forward and try to ensure the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
Pete, do you spend time on the internet looking for rubbish ! This is RT.
Just heard the topic brought up on R4 and thought it may be of interest. Don’t waste time replying if you find the topic uninteresting The idea is to stimulate discussion .
My time to waste, Pete ,
I find the reason behind the post interesting !
Yep whatnow, where are we heading with this rubbish ffs ?
ok, knock down statues and monuments cos’ it upsets BAME et al and destroy documents and other ephemera which form part of the nation’s heritage but what next ?
Black Lives Matter of course but don’t All Lives Matter ?
I think we are all getting carried away with this nonsense.
You can”t re-write history but you can – and should – learn from it. It is one of the arguments put forward for being able to visit the concentration camps from WW2.
Maybe PC will see the closure of the death camps, military cemeteries and any museum department which contains sensitive material ?
Oh dear Mr James. Too woke for you the idea of pointing out what these historical figures were all about? No one’s trying to erase history or rewrite history, all folk’s are trying to do is make people aware of all the facts.
Oh dear Mr James. Too woke for you the idea of pointing out what these historical figures were all about? No one’s trying to erase history or rewrite history, all folk’s are trying to do is make people aware of all the facts.
Wot, by demolishing them ?
Yep whatnow, where are we heading with this rubbish ffs ? ok, knock down statues and monuments cos’ it upsets BAME et al and destroy documents and other ephemera which form part of the nation’s heritage but what next ? Black Lives Matter of course but don’t All Lives Matter ? I think we are all getting carried away with this nonsense.
Pete I’m afraid but w h o o s h, of course all lives matter but you are completely missing the point, which surprises me tbh
I,m with you peter…learn from the past don’t try and erase it.
I am bang in favour of things like this. It’s great to see more of it.
Of course history is not being ‘erased’; that’s stupid. But you can place it in context.
The statue of Edward Colston is a good example. A statue is, with no exceptions, an honour. You erect them to pay tribute to someone. Colston’s statue was erected 174 years after he died; the equivalent of us now erecting a statue of someone who died in 1846.
You’d only do that if that person was significant and worthy of such an honour after nearly two centuries. The high-colonial men of the late Victorian era clearly thought him so worthy.
Not any more. I know quite a few people in Bristol, being my home town, who hated walking past that statue every day and seeing this honour bestowed upon the man (not by his peers or contemporaries, but by jingoistic imperialists 174 years later). One of them was even involved in the peaceful removal of the statue, which was a great day for the city.
Now it can be placed in a city museum, where it should be. Not in a prestigious place, overlooking the city centre, but in context; where information on the man and his times can be placed all around.
Has he been erased? No, just moved somewhere more appropriate. And if it makes one person happy (as it goes, it’s made many thousands happy), it is worth it.
Plus if staues were essential to teach history and learn from it, why doesn’t every town have one of Hitler?
The museum is a good place for the statue, certainly better than the river.
Just about every commune in France or every UK town has a war memorial which is a great way to not forget the horrors of war. They seem to have become places where the fallen from all conflicts are remembered and that has to be positive.
Remembering those that died in a war and there being a monument to them is hardly the same as someone with a statue of himself who gained wealth from black slaves. Isn’t that so very obvious?
Yep so putting him in a museum seems the right place for him. What happened has happened so we should embrace history, warts ‘ all.
Various regimes have sought to erase or rewrite history to suit their political agenda. And sadly the practice continues.
The British colonial governments/ regimes have done quite a good job about rewriting British history .
Once out of the UK looking back and reading other non-British accounts is an easy way of seeing the indoctrination of the British people.
My wife’s Great Grandparents were Indian from Ahmedabad (once the capital of the Indian state of Gujarat) as an aside he was a train driver, which was a very respected job. He used to tell Tina’s Mother of the British in India, from the stories we were told the Brits should hold no pride about their time in India and as stated, you would get a far different view of the British and the Empire from many of the people in those countries.
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