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    Pete James
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    You have proof of that ?

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    You have proof of that ?

    Pretty common knowledge and a bit of personal knowledge too. do you really think druggies are confined to one class? like alcohol abuse plainly isn’t?

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    I know he admitted to drug use in his younger days but is he admitting to using it nowadays ?

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    Oops sorry, thought you were talking about middle class drug usage, no idea about Gove and Johnsons current usage if any….

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    Drug is a big problem at work, including all the classes. Here is a serious french article about this subject. Deepl translator if you need a translation :good:

    https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/la-drogue-et-l-alcool-de-plus-en-plus-consommes-au-travail-06-12-2016-2088468_23.php

     

     

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    One of the great misconceptions regarding drug use is that most users are no hopers at the bottom end of the social scale, smelly people in hoodies, not working, stealing to fund their habit etc etc. Hello, but there is a massive amount of drug use going on amongst middle and professional classes too. Loads of people who have smoked dope since their college days but aren’t zombies. Cocaine use is pretty widespread too. Boris and Gove are just the tip of the iceberg. :whistle:

    But do you use alcohol or other drugs Jazzy?

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    If you had ever seen the effect on a young person of excessive cannabis use, as I have, not one of my family thankfully, you wouldn’t join in to the “cannabis is not harmful ” chorus. It demotivates, makes decision making a non-event and creates zombies who just go through the motion of life. To legalise it is the downward path to oblivion for it’s users.

    I lived in Holland for 20 years Fitter . I know a bit about cannabis . :yes: :yes: Have you ever seen the effect on anyone of excessive alcohol use ? That is legal !!! :yahoo:

    I don’t really see the point in comparing alcohol with cannabis, one is legal, the other is not, even in the Netherlands, although tolerated for personal use in small quantities.

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    don’t really see the point in comparing alcohol with cannabis, one is legal, the other is not, even in the Netherlands, although tolerated for personal use in small quantities.[/quote

    We were discussing drug related criminality, which wouldn’t be criminality if drugs were legalised, as is alcohol.

    That misuse of alcohol is rife and destroys more lives than drugs do .

    That there is a misconception in a vaste number of peoples minds that alcohol is fine but drugs are not .

    Years ago , ( when young) I was thrown out of the Bulldog for being drunk ! :yes: :yes:

     

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    Drug use has been in all classes since laudanum, opium and beyond, the drugs are more inventive and varied now, the publicised users are those whose addiction financially takes them into the realms of cheap and dangerous mixtures, it doesn’t mean they are the only addicts.

    Any addiction is a life-changing thing be it drugs, gambling, alcohol or tobacco and those that are legal can still have adverse effects on lives.

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    If drugs are legalised it may encourage people to use them that normally wouldn’t, because it’s a criminal act to do so at the moment? If this happened, the chances that misuse could possibly lead to more deaths, the same as alcohol.

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    Straw poll time. Hands up, no lying, who on here never, ever, touches alcohol or other drugs. Myself I drink alcohol most days but (these days) never get rat-arsed.

    looks like we all do then 😂

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    I have never used “drugs” do not drink or smoke.

    What with drop in the pound and Brex…t, I am starting next year as I cannot afford live much longer.

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    Straw poll time. Hands up, no lying, who on here never, ever, touches alcohol or other drugs. Myself I drink alcohol most days but (these days) never get rat-arsed.

    looks like we all do then 😂

    Did take drugs, mainly dope and amphetamines, used to get drunk, this is all before I got married and had kids. Now rarely drink and then usually only with a meal but do like a Hendricks and tonic on occasion.

    Where I come from in West London I doubt that very few of my mates did not take some kind of drugs but nothing as heavy as now, skunk I am told far outweighs the strength of marijuana from the 60’s and in to the 70’s. Many weekends were spent at clubs like the Marquee, Scene, Flamingo and so on, and amphetamines were common place. All part of growing up for many of us around then.

    I had an old friend, once a scout for a South London soccer club who told me that they used to go to Opium dens in London in the 50’s. He wasn’t a bit of a lad just an ordinary well liked chap doing what many in London might do at weekends. Also he told us that as a Teddy boy he and his mates always carried knives!!

     

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    Once saw a chap brandishing a knife outside the Bar-Restaurant “Le Saint-Patrick” in Lyvet a year or so ago. :-(

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    Mr. F. was a Teddy boy, rival gangs would fight each other but none that he encountered or knew ever carried a knife, they did carry other dangerous items such as bike chains but not knives and only ever fought between themselves, gang against gang.

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    Different gangs, different weapons, this was London, plenty of gangs. He said flick knives were the ones favoured.

     

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    Very true Roger, I can imagine London was different to Kent

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    As I see it, there seems to be great indifference in the UK to the serious prospect of leaving the EU without a deal. Although there are organisations such as the People’s Vote and the European Movement who are trying to  inform the public about the dangers ahead in a no-deal situation, so many people just seem to be burying their heads in the sand. People are fed up with hearing about Brexit and don’t seem to want to listen to anyone trying to tell them what might happen after 31 October if there is no deal. The situation is very serious.

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    As you say, many are completely fed up and just want it to end, whatever the consequences….

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    They’ll feel a bit different once the results start to bite them in the backside.  There are millions of people who don’t deserve what is coming but hey, that’s democracy.  :negative:

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