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    I see that there are to be five new high speed TGV lines in parts of France, they will make life easier for some travellers.

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180912/french-government-gives-green-light-to-five-new-high-speed-tgv-lines

     

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    They certainly shave a lot off journey times. The Paris – St Brieuc upgrade took 45mins off I believe…. :good:

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    France have always been ahead of the UK with their trains and service!

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    They’re brilliant trains, just wish we had more connecting trains locally.

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    France have always been ahead of the UK with their trains and service!

    The thread is about TGV not knocking (yet again) the UK.

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    I don’t think it’s a case of knocking the UK BE, just stating a fact, even if I were in the UK, or a champion of it as yourself, I would still agree with that statement. Similarly, I would agree with anyone that said France has always been behind the UK in such things as toilets and plumbing, although they’ve caught up a bit now. You don’t always have to jump to the defense of the UK every time someone makes a passing comment about a particular thing in comparison. And tigre was still speaking about the TGV.

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    OK Fruitcake I give in, you can all denigrate the UK as much as you like but don’t forget who helped to get France out of the mire twice last century. :-)

    In England they are still arguing about the new HS2 rail link which will cost billions, devastate the countryside and villages etc to save 15 minutes on a journey from London to Birmingham! 15 minutes! I ask you! :negative:

    Good article Fruitcake.

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    The TGV trains are much more civilised, you can’t travel on them without a seat reservation, unlike the UK 125 Intercity trains where they pack them on. We had a friend to stay last Christmas, when she travelled back from Exeter to Paddington ( with a seat res) the GWR employee who tried to help her couldn’t even get on the carriage with her suitcase because of the amount of people on the train. She had a most uncomfortable journey. That would never happen on a TGV!

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    Bald eagle wrote “OK Fruitcake I give in, you can all denigrate the UK as much as you like but don’t forget who helped to get France out of the mire twice last century.”

    I’m not sure what that has to do with trains, but as you want to talk about the war…… my father was in the RAF during WW2. He was half German and half French, lots of nationalities fought for our freedom.

    This is a forum about France. Therefore people will be pro France.  For whatever reason posters believe something in France is a good idea/thing it doesn’t mean they need to be bombarded with how good the UK is.

    The new TGV trains will make a lot of journeys easier for a lot of people.  I would also like more local train links, fingers crossed that will happen in the future.

     

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    BE wrote;

    The thread is about TGV

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    OK Fruitcake I give in, you can all denigrate the UK as much as you like but don’t forget who helped to get France out of the mire twice last century

    BE the thread IS about trains in general and the TGV in particular, not about the war! Your two statements contradict each other really and if you read what I wrote you will see that I was not denigrating the UK, I said I would agree with that statement (France have always been ahead of the UK with their trains and service!) whether I lived in France or the UK, as it is a fact. I also said; Similarly, I would agree with anyone that said France has always been behind the UK in such things as toilets and plumbing, although they’ve caught up a bit now. So I was not denigrating the UK, just pointing out how some countries are more in front with some things while others forge ahead with other things.

    If you read through many different forums and postings you will see that many of us that live in France also moan a great deal about some things here, but we just happen to prefer to live here, warts and all, have taken that decision for all sorts of reasons and, as is human nature, because we have done so, even knowing there are some things we find annoying, we will, of course, look for and point out the things that we find good about living here, as you do about living in the UK and the TGV trains are one of the good things, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Look at this :-

    Labour leadership contender Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to make Britain’s railways entirely state-owned and run by a citizens’ corporation – dubbed the “People’s Railway”.

    Yet many of Britain’s rail franchises are already owned and operated by state-owned companies – from Germany, the Netherlands and France.

    Through a complex web of international subsidiaries, both state-owned and majority state-owned railway companies are operating millions of rail journeys across Britain.

    And the profits are flowing back to their countries, funding public transport and spending across Europe.

    No wonder French trains are good.           :unsure:

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    BE “OK Fruitcake I give in, you can all denigrate the UK as much as you like but don’t forget who helped to get France out of the mire twice last century.”

    Deary me, that’s such a ridiculous statement to come out with, are you in denial about how the UK is going down the pan ?

     

     

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    Up here in the frozen North ‘Power House’  still wondering what that means! The HS2 will only run as far as Newcastle!  On the East Coast.  Wrong sort of track etc! Then if you wish to go further North you will have to change  trains , I presume, there by probably loosing the saving of the 25 minutes, in waiting for  the next one?   :wacko:

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    The UK rail nework has become a disgrace along with the NHS.

    Macron has ‘promised’ France will not de nationalise the SNCF but many are sceptical. These are worrying times as job cuts in the public sector à la Iron Lady (more nursing posts and teaching posts etc to be axed)  continue to damage our sevices.

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    Look at this :- Labour leadership contender Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to make Britain’s railways entirely state-owned and run by a citizens’ corporation – dubbed the “People’s Railway”. Yet many of Britain’s rail franchises are already owned and operated by state-owned companies – from Germany, the Netherlands and France. Through a complex web of international subsidiaries, both state-owned and majority state-owned railway companies are operating millions of rail journeys across Britain. And the profits are flowing back to their countries, funding public transport and spending across Europe. No wonder French trains are good. :unsure:

    More fool the UK government for allowing that to happen…

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    Pete, I don’t really know anything about French politics, but I often read your posts about them with interest and curiosity. Do you think if Macron carries on with his cutbacks etc France will start heading the same way the UK is going? For example with health and other public services.

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    He’s carrying out Thatcherite policies, he is obviously an admirer. Now, I voted for Maggie three times because I felt she was a needed at the time (1979 winter of discontent etc) plus the alternatives ie Callaghan,Worzel Gummage and Kinnock weren’t too inspiring. But, selling off the family silver, closing schools and hospital wards and the privatisation boom which followed has done a lot of harm IMO. I feel Macron is doing the same.

    Only this morning my ladyfriend’s youngest daughter who s a nurse has been told that her service has been cut by another person which takes the nursing staff down to four. That will mean even less time for each nurse per patient. It was annonced on monday that 1800 more posts will be scrapped in the Grade 2 education teir (Lycée & College I believe) which  is on top of cuts already made so, class sizes will increase yet again. Macron in his manifesto stated 250000 job cuts in the public sector if I recall correctly but people were so desperate to get rid of Hollande they just voted for him.

    Public services are getting worse tho’ still probably far superior to many UK services but harder and more expensive times are creeping up on us in France.

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    Thanks for the reply, Pete, it does make one wonder what it will be like in years to come if these cuts etc keep happening.

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    It’s only my opinion tigre but maybe i’m becoming a cynical old sod in my dotage ?

    The way it’s going waiting lists will get longer and efficiency will fall as the cuts take more effect. The staff cuts in education, social services and health are alarming.

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    Peter, the health care in France as you probably know has been in dire trouble financially for at least thirty years. It blunders on whilst still giving as good a system as it can. Post code lottery reigns here as much as in the UK.  The French health ministers have often been over to the UK to see how the NHS works but practically it couldn’t work the same way in France. I believe th   ere have been joint discussions over many years as to how the best of each may be the answer..result…nothing has ever happened and never likely to, imho.
    I won’t discuss Thatcher,  can I just say she is a long way way from being a favourite of mine, a very, very long way. :negative:

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