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    It appears that under certain circumstances the country tracks, old roads, known as chemins – the old cross country routes used for centuries by villagers to get about, public access can be removed and they can be incorporated into private land.

    Used nowadays by walkers, hikers, horse riders, cyclists etc.

    https://www.citizaction.fr/petition/hal … ss#updates

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    #470254

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    Thanks for that info Fitter – signed :good:

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    Whilst living in the Dordogne there seemed to be far more chemin rurales than where we live now in Brittany. The chemins were a good way there to get about without using the more “main” roads. The farmers and  indeed many of the “agricole” used them all the time, which saved them also going out on to the usual road system.

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    Under certain circumstances? As in what certain circumstances?

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    Futureman, don’t ask such questions ;-)

     

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    Sorry, I didn’t know if it was another case of never wanted to walk down that lane, but now the bloke who owns it says I can’t walk down his lane I want to walk down it.

     

     

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    Sorry, I didn’t know if it was another case of never wanted to walk down that lane, but now the bloke who owns it says I can’t walk down his lane I want to walk down it.

    Yup – you got it, it’s in the link to the petition. It’s called la prescription acquisitive.

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    The problem in our commune is that they don’t actually keep ” les chemins rurals ” clean . Most of them are/were used by farmers and villagers going about their business but now have been degraded and used on Sundays by swarms of quad riders . They used to be kept clear by the cantonniers  because they were also the local chase and therefore needed them( the chemins)  to rush about on in the Winter in their 4 x 4  chasing their dogs!! :yahoo:

    If a chemin rural is ploughed up and people actually use it , then it is very easy to complain at the Mairie , because it is against the law ( le code rural ) :-)

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    Yes, often it is La Chasse that rules the roost in may things Deboer I have found! It’s a lottery with our GP when it’s the season (he is semi-retired) whether we see him or a stand-in brought in because he’s gone hunting! Sorry I digress, I guess a visit to the Mairie would help, (as long as the Maire is not a huntsman :yahoo: )

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    They ( la chasse) started by trying to scare me , then by ignoring me , but slowly ( it has taken nearly 30 years ) they are actually talking with me and have a little respect . I have also discovered over the years , that there are quite a lot of French local people that don’t like la chase either , but have always been too scared to stand upto them . :-)

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    Guilty as charged you would need a machete to get through our chemin ,but there is another way which is well maintained ( and safer ) the other side of the road .

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    You have a chemin marion ? Do you own it or is it still the communes responsibility ?

    I have two branches of chemin rural with dead ends that go across our land . They used to be used by the various owners of the tiny pieces of  land which now all belong to us . They have never been cleaned or cleared , so should I buy them and clean them up or just leave them covered in brambles? :-)

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    Yep 2 infact but one runs right past the house and hasn’t been used ( except by us) for 50 yrs and is now overgrown as I use the other way down to the river .The second one is maintained by the village ramblers asso and  is well signposted The  first one was at one time the main route between towns but was just a stone track and never tarmaced it is not indicated anywhere .

    Deboer I would have a word with your mairie but I can’t think it worth buying them ,notaires fees etc. They might be yours anyway .As you say no one uses them but you and they go nowhere (just as ours doesn’t )

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    PS the chasse know me as I have working gundogs and have regular invites to their meals even permission to use their land to train my dogs on .

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    Deboer wrote;

    They ( la chasse) started by trying to scare me , then by ignoring me , but slowly ( it has taken nearly 30 years ) they are actually talking with me and have a little respect . I have also discovered over the years , that there are quite a lot of French local people that don’t like la chase either , but have always been too scared to stand upto them .

    Yes I have found that too with some French people and I have to say that the majority of the members of the chasse that I have known have had a certain ‘attitude’ about them but, as with all things, I’m sure there are good and bad, as Marion has found.

    It is worth speaking to the Mairie about chemins, when we renovated our first house there was a problem with the fall of the land when it came to locating the filter bed for the new fosse septique, the perfect place was a communal way which went off at right angles from our property and was much lower than our land, it was only used by one lady who lived at the end of it. The Maire came out with his colleagues and we were allowed to put the filter bed in it. We did get a signed and stamped declaration that we could – just to be sure!

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    Sometimes in France it is better to leave the dogs asleep . I have found that most local French people just do what they need to do and usually get away with it. I have always applied for permits etc for everything that I have done here. Lately I see a lot of people ( Brits and French ) doing things without applying for permits , there is very little checking going on , our local gendarmerie closed down a while ago and now the closest is 20 kms away . No one wanted to be Maire last time round , so we will see what happens this time. So as far as les chemins rurals on my property ? I will leave them quietly snoring for at least 30 more years ! :-)

     

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    If they don’t bother you as they are then that seems a wise choice, at least the wildlife will be happier staying undisturbed!

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