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    I see the government is going to buy a stake in it,i suppose it will be cheaper than paying the dole.etc.! Losing £1 million a day,can’t sell the steel,too clever for me i can’t do the sums due to detesting the maths master. :-(

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    #8118

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    I have a soft spot for the ANCHOR SITE at SCUNTHORPE. I was driving one of the trucks that took the aggregate, to build the batcher pad for the massive concrete mixer to sit on, that was used in the whole of the construction of the steel works. It was just a green field site then.

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    HMG has not confirmed it WILL actually take a 25% stake – like much in politics just talk. HMG has taken about 2yrs to respond to the concerns of Tata. Port Talbot is finished and one can only feel for the people down there let down by HMG and the Welsh assembly and doomed to a slow motion decline as UK industry gets cheap steel from China and specialist steel from elsewhere in Europe. Sad but HMG doesn’t care about the steel in Wales as there are no votes in it for the Tories.

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    @george Charlton, with you re the maths George.
    I hated my maths teacher Mrs Hogg and she was aptly named!
    Teeth ten times larger than Bugs Bunny and jam jar bottom specs…used to have nightmares about her!
    My lovely Dad confronted her once, telling her as a teacher you make a good tyrant! As we left Dad starting whistling the Looney Tunes theme, and as we went through the door he looked back and said “That’s all Folks”
    :yahoo: :yahoo:

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    As I understand it. The consortium that has bought the Anchor Site in Scunthorpe will be making a lot of the specialist steel mentioned by Dibbyspot. The new name for the plant is going back to BRITISH STEEL. To me, that is a really good start. The workers at the plant agreed to ( i think ) a 3% wage cut. To my mind, the unions in Wales, have a lot to do with the demise of the Port Talbot site. We, all of us, really dont know what is happening behind the scenes.

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    We all really have no idea, all I know is loads of stuff that used to happen in Europe and the UK, now happens in the far east and India, most of the time the companies involved are European companies who have shipped out there to lower costs and make more profit, its all down to money, friend of mine went into hospital today for an OP, he is still waiting because beds are full of old folk, its a new hospital, far less beds than old hospital, its one of those public private initiative jobs, costs a million a year more than the old one, British steel will nodoubt work out the same way.

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    Bodiddly. Totally agree. If you were in business, wouldnt you go for the cheapest, if it was a good as the dearest. If it wasnt for the unions, The coal pits would still be going. Dont blame MAGGIE.

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    Yes I know, but Maggie went to war with the unions, no comprimise, its was a bit like bush and Saddam. The buy the cheapest is what the old out camp don’t seem to understand. When it comes to trade, you need something to trade that someone wants at the right price, doesn’t matter if you think they are old mates, in the world of business, steel, coal, ships, veggies its all down to price. I remember a watching a program about the investment bankers who caused black Monday and nearly bankrupted the UK, when they asked the British traders why they did it knowing full well they could have destroyed the economy, they just said its business, no national loyalties in business.

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    1-The UK is an island, surrounded by sea, that used to be full of fish until the EU allowed the Frogs and Spaniards to nick it.
    2-The country is sitting on squillions of tons of coal, that the EU won’t allow to be burnt because it’s not German coal.
    3-It’s also sitting on hundreds of millions of tons of iron ore, that is uneconomic to process because of 2 above and the chinese and indians can produce steel from scrap much cheaper because the UK ships it’s scrap steel to them.
    4-I can’t really think of anything else to say apart from the fact that a UK government of any colour couldn’t run a winkle stall.

    If the EU comes out with a directive the UK government says “We must obey this-employ 500 inspectors with clipboards immediately”
    Every other country in Europe yawns and says “Another silly EU law- write it into the list of laws then lose it in a filing cabinet somewhere”

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    Agree Boris,watched a prog some years ago,chap had a factory making chest freezers,he said he wouldn’t mind paying the extra to buy from British Steel,who were 1/2 a mile away down the road,as his profits were good,but 2 months delivery,so bought cheaper and faster from Italy and China,no one is indispensable,same with the motor industry,they helped to stuff themselves. :-(

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    Fitter. I used to pick coal up from the pits in England and Steam coal from Wales. There is enough coal under ground in the UK to keep the home fires burning for hundreds of years. When they shut STEETLEY, in Notts. I said to Elaine, I wish I could buy that slack heap. I new that thousands of tons of top quality best coal had been dumped there. Richard Budge bought it. Made him 2m quid. SCARGILL F– the coal industry in the UK and then fronted the importing of POLISH Shit.

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    Winkles, ? one of the most expensive shellfish.flesh to shell ratio. ! :yahoo:

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    Winkles popular in Norfolk, which is now full of retired Londoners all living in Chelsea on sea, fields are full of pigs being fattened up for export to China and the roads are littered with the carcasses of muntjac deer mown down by the crazy drivers, over here the carcasses would be munched in minutes by the buzzards, crows and magpies but back in Norfolk I’ve never seen a buzzard, no coal under Norfolk as far as I know or iron ore, its a service industry county,part of the service industry country called England, oh and the EU didn’t wreck the UK’s fishing industry, the EU saved the sea from being fished dry, I watched an interview with some Scottish fishermen moaning about quotas saying the sea was full of fish, they couldn’t understand why they couldn’t have more boats and catch more fish, they blamed it on being part of the EU, the fisheries management chap said if the EU hadn’t stepped in to control the levels of fishing then there wouldn’t have been any fish left to catch, but the fishermen still blamed the EU.

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    Totally agree Fitter.as for the gentleman you mentioned he lived in a flat in London funded by the union, which amounted to their total funds ! :yahoo:

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    Fitter, Boris, all good points fully agree, but one thing missed on this thread is the quality of the shit that comes from china and India and when I say that I mean it, there is no Quality Control the steel fails time and time again I can give examples but the list is far to big for here, your right its all money money money but at what cost to the end user?? a inferior product that he pays as much for in purchase and far more due to failure, Steel from India and China is fit for one thing and 1 thing alone its called SCRAP

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    Isn’t it funny how straight away people jump on the its the unions fault whenever one of the,what I would call,heavy industries comes up for closure.
    How can the workforce dictate to China how much steel is sold,where and at what price.Tata steels problems aren’t caused by the unions but by poor management and massive debts in India.
    This government aren’t interested in heavy industry of any kind,being more interested in lining their own pockets and having a population easily manipulated to return to “the good old days”.
    Long live Victorian values

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    It is indeed a blame game usually used to cover the states shortcomings, here in France you usually can blame the unions as the only word they know is non, I watched an interview with a French union top dog, Mr Macron had put forward proposals to abolish wealth tax, do away with the 35 hour week, have a French version of zero hours contracts, make it easier for small businesses to start and have civil servants on performance related pay, the interviewer asked the union bloke what he felt about it and he simply said there’s no need to discuss it because it’s not going to happen, he said we didn’t go through a revolution to end up having a government telling us what to do, now that’s the way to run a country.

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    FLO CREEN. Its only a few years ago, that the Scunthorpe site was nearly closed for good. The site was owned at that time by CORUS. The whole of the workforce, led by the unions, walked out, over pay. The blast furnaces were kept going by management. In the end, the unions were given an ultimatum. Back to work or we shut down. Three months, no pay. Dont forget, the union leaders still get paid. Who suffered, wives and kids. UNIONS!!! :scratch: :wacko: :wacko:

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    #8351

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    Always the fault of the union eh.Talk about towing the tory line.Bad management first.

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    #8355

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    YP,Totallyagree,only have to test the metalwork they issue for important expensive projects.
    “Steel from India and China is fit for one thing and 1 thing alone its called SCRAP” :yes:

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