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    Britchick wrote following my post;

    To apologise ,would be admitting liability.He would be advised not to do that.The lady involved is making the most of it.Selling her story to the newspapers etc.Obviously her 15 mins of fame.Quite sad really.

    I was just repeating what was said in the report, but yes, of course, you are quite right, people always jump on the bandwagon if a bit of money can be made by selling a story and Prince Philip would have been admitting liability. There is, however, no excuse for the Royals flouting seat belt rules, safety rules apply whatever the standing of the driver.

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    I’d make the most of it too! Her and her baby’s life could have been lost due to the actions of the silly old fart. Bet she wasn’t given a new car the next day either!

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    Paul – little the Police can do about the Queen not wearing a seat belt as she cannot be prosecuted anyway.

     

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    I’m sure I heard yesterday that the royals don’t have insurance – I was only half listening so may be wrong.

    If they don’t, does that mean the other driver’s insurance has to pay for the whole lot?  :unsure:

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    It occurs to me that the other car must have been going at quite a speed if it caused an armoured Freelander to roll – what if she was at fault?

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    Until the accident has been investigated properly it’s all supposition really, one assumes he was at fault because a) he is elderly b) he was coming from a side road c) it’s a good excuse to have a pop at the Royals, however, we don’t really know how it happened. It’s just very, very fortunate that there were no serious injuries, or worse, fatalities.

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    Try watching car crash on youtube and you will be amazed how easy it is to turn over cars and wagons of all kinds, it must be something to do with the front of cars which have been redesigned to protect pedestrians

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    If you are driving along and someone pulls out of a side road and hits you I thought it was generally assumed to be their fault regardless of the sun being in their eyes etc or what speed you were doing.

    In fact if he couldn’t see the road was clear for whatever reason he shouldn’t have pulled out at all.

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    Can you honestly see any prosecution here?   :wacko:    No ofcourse not!

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    Until the accident has been investigated properly it’s all supposition really, one assumes he was at fault because a) he is elderly b) he was coming from a side road c) it’s a good excuse to have a pop at the Royals, however, we don’t really know how it happened. It’s just very, very fortunate that there were no serious injuries, or worse, fatalities.

     

    One of the ladies in the car who’s wrist was broken said that the Duke pulled out in front of them. Yes he pulled out from a side road staright in to the path of the oncoming car. So we do know,  you are highly unlikely to hear from the Duke how it happened but the cause is pretty obvious. Not knocking the Royal family, much as I dislike the favours they have, this is a staright forward case of him pulling out in front of the lady driver and with that and the case of no seat belt, isn’t it right he should be prosecuted?

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    I didn’t realise it was as open and shut as that RW so, in that case, it doesn’t matter about his age or his social standing he should be prosecuted as you or I would in the same circumstances. (It won’t happen though) And yes the no seat belt shouldn’t be ignored.

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    One of the ladies in the car who’s wrist was broken said that the Duke pulled out in front of them.

    Well, she would say that, wouldn’t she? IF she, or the driver of the car she was in, was somehow in the wrong, she’s not likely to admit it, plus I’m sure she’s loving all the media attention.

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    VK – Stop being obtuse. How could there have been a collision unless he pulled out in front of them? I can’t think of any other scenario to result in a collision like this. How could they be in the wrong?

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    He may be in the wrong, having pulled out in front of the other car, sun dazzle or not.
    She may be in the wrong, maybe speeding, left hand indicator still on(A common error), or even distracted by a crying child.
    Nobody here knows, all is supposition apart from the fact that an accident happened.
    We do not know, or at least I do not, driving/accident history of either of the drivers.
    So us blaming either of them, until investigations are finished, is a bit mean.
    One thing, the lady, having been giving her views on television, had better have all her stated facts totally correct if this does go to court.
    I am just pleased nobody is seriously hurt.

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    The driver has to my knowledge not spoken as yet, or has she? It has been the passenger that has been the spokesman. I’m afraid indicating doesn’t count for much, perhaps it should but…..Sticking up for the Duke is rather too much in my opinion but what will he receive, well  with enough pressure maybe he will get a ban, or a fine, or both.

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    One of the ladies in the car who’s wrist was broken said that the Duke pulled out in front of them.

    Well, she would say that, wouldn’t she? IF she, or the driver of the car she was in, was somehow in the wrong, she’s not likely to admit it, plus I’m sure she’s loving all the media attention.

     

    Why would she? You are assuming  she is loving the attention, the way the press gather hastily around something like, does this mean she is enjoying it? According to her she has not been contacted by the Duke, no mention of exchanging of insurances, something the rest of us are duty bound to do. The passenger said that they saw his car from 150 yards away and then at last minute he pulled out. How can the driver be at fault if the Duke pulled out from the side road? If that was not the case, I’m pretty sure  “The Firm” would have put enough excuses and doubt out there.

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    If she isn’t loving the attention,she sure looks that way.Interviews with newspapers etc.Dear gawd it must have been manna from heaven.Possibility of compensation plus from a well know person.Sorry ,IMO,she is tacky.

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    Tacky probably doesn’t come in to it if you’re skint, It will be old and forgotten news in a week or so, and if the papers and TV are offering  good money for an interview, why not?

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    It’s always possible the Duke is exempt from wearing a seatbelt on medical grounds or for ‘security reasons’ eg the need to exit a car quickly in case of an attack.

    I notice it’s been reported that the police said they had ‘given him words of advice’ regarding the wearing of a seatbelt but this doesn’t mean he’s been ‘reprimanded’ as those same ‘words of advice’ could have been given even if he is exempt from wearing a seatbelt for whatever reason.

    But on another note, is it not inappropriate for the police to be disclosing to the press / media what has passed between them and a motorist involved in an accident? I stand to be corrected if I’m wrong but I thought ‘legal matters’ such as this were private until a person had been charged with an offence.

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    I think he must have been wearing a seat belt when he had the accident given he was not injured

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    windrush victim

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    I was exempt from wearing a seat belt when Ray fetched me from Hospital after my bowel cancer operation. He went and asked at Selby police station if he needed any paper work and was told no because I would have my discharge papers with me.

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    Paul ! Neat!

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    HRH Prince Philip has just given up his driving license :yahoo:

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    I wonder why?  :yahoo:

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    Good :good:

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    Hold yer ‘orses, he might now get a sans permis to get about in ;-)

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    Une chichinette royale :yahoo:

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    Une mercoboite  ou une motocrot peut etre. :yes:   :yes:   :yes:

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    We also call them “suppositoire à bus”, or “voiture muscadet” (I wonder why :scratch: )

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