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    I mentioned on another thread that I don’t use bleach in the toilet in order to protect the fosse septique, it was mentioned that once a week is okay and I have in the past used the likes of Domestos (it says on the back it’s okay for FS’s) but I now use a toilet cleaner made by Harpic that is specifically for FS’s, totally biodegradable. I only use the washing up liquid that says the same and so I think I’m doing all the right things to protect it (bloody thing cost nearly 9000 euros so need to look after it!) however, someone told me recently that the worst thing to put down a fosse is mouthwash! Mr. F. uses it each time he cleans his teeth so how do we get over that one? Please don’t tell me I’ve got to have a spittoon in the corner of the bathroom!!

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    Never put even diluted bleach in your fosse Fruity, plus make sure a reactivator agent is flushed down it once every 6 months on average. We use Monsieur Propre to wash floors etc, and try very very very hard, not to put any of that, even the diluted stuff down into the fosse, other than that, just the correct toilet paper, all else goes via the bac dégraisseur before going into the FS. Have the FS emptied and everything cleaned once every 4 years.

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    A dead rat or similar reactivates them

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    No, I don’t Gleaner. It’s interesting you say about the reactivator agent as with previous fosses we’ve had in other properties we’ve always regularly used those but this new system says don’t use them! However, I asked the guy who installed it if I can and he said one now and again will be good. Yes I always throw floor washing liquid outside not down the sink, have always bought toilet paper that says on it okay for FS’s. Our system doesn’t have a bac dégraisser. We have to flush our filter every couple of months, easy to do, it’s a super system. The emptying is the same as most fosses.

    I still need to know about the mouthwash?

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    Thank God I’m on main drain, that’s all I can say. Too much hassle not knowing what to put down the plughole!  ;-)

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    evidently mouthwashes, etc. kill off enzymes and bacteria, which isn’t good for your septic tank fruity

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    Well, I suppose if you think about it that’s why we use them. Anyone got any bright ideas of how Mr. F. disposes of it? Have I really got to have a spittoon in my newly renovated bathroom? It wasn’t a design feature I had in mind I have to admit!

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    You could let him carry on by simply putting Eparcyl, or Tarax or some other activator down the toilet.

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    So would that counteract it Roger? I have got Eparcyl to put down every so often anyway, it’s a genuine worry to make sure we keep it going as it should.

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    I use bleach have a dishwasher,use floor cleaner,use kitchen cleaner with bleach and never put that enzyme stuff down the toilet.I have never had a problem with any fosse.

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    So would that counteract it Roger? I have got Eparcyl to put down every so often anyway, it’s a genuine worry to make sure we keep it going as it should.

     

    Yes, no problem. Tarax do a six month product, so put it in and mark the calender as to the next due date.

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    I use bleach have a dishwasher,use floor cleaner,use kitchen cleaner with bleach and never put that enzyme stuff down the toilet.I have never had a problem with any fosse.

    Me too from when we had the fosse installed in 2006 to when we sold last year. No problems whatsoever.  All functioning and decomposing very well. The guy who came to empty said not to bother with Eparcyl etc, just stick a few cartons worth of live yoghurt in the tank every so often. Much cheaper too.

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    I tend to agree but the strength and numbers of activators that are sold kind of add weight to the theory they do work. Dead cats  will work but I haven’t see any  for sale  in the supermarkets.

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    Again…..Thank f**k I’m on main drain  :yahoo:

    What a stress that’s not needed in your life!!

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    Hi,  using mouthwash will not damage the fosse septique.  Used in large quantities it could theoretically upset the balance of the bugs in the contents of the fosse, which could stop the processing of the waste you put in it. However a mouthful (or two) of mouthwash per day in several thousand litres of waste is much too small to do any harm.

    We use mouthwash, have a relatively small fosse, don’t used activator, yet never have any problems.

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    Buddylux,what stress? There is a lot of paranoia about fosses,most of it unnecessary.As I and some others have said ,they are not a problem.

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    Many thanks to one and all for your helpful comments and advice. I feel that I should explain that we are not novices to fosses septiques in general, the two we’ve had in previous houses were the bog (pardon the pun) standard types and all that you have said was how we carried on with Eparcyl or Tarax, however, this system that we’ve had to have installed in this house, due to constraints of placement, is a whole different ball game and among the list of ‘do not use’ items is the activator, which is why I’ve been a bit hesitant, although when I mentioned to the installer, who is very conversant with this system, that it felt odd, after years of habitually using the product, to not use it, he said that it wouldn’t hurt it to put one down now and again.

    My original query was about the mouthwash as I hadn’t thought about it until someone mentioned it, I now feel more at ease about it so thank you all for taking the time to give me your advice.

    We have never had a problem with any fosse, with the exception of our first house when we had raw sewage backfilling, Mr. F. at work so it was me on my belly with the lid off and an old rag tied round a stick, poking down in the slurry to do some serious suction unblocking movements. We had to dig out and cut out a portion of the pipe, nothing to do with the good working of the fosse but to do with the charming people in the gite attached to the house allowing their kids to put rubber pants down the toilet! (Same people thought it very funny that one little boy had shut the other in the washing machine and that they both had great fun riding around on my vacuum cleaner – we didn’t let it to anyone with young kids after that!)

    Oh and Buddy being on mains drainage doesn’t necessarily come without problems, one house we lived in was on mains, the only trouble was the council, in their wisdom, had built a one-story block of HLM flats over the top of the drain run from our house to the road and here we go again with raw sewage coming up  in the shower – boy did I have a fight with the mayor over that one, as I argued that it could have been anyone after it left our house that could have caused the blockage besides us. We had the lorry out to test the drains and a whole lot of conversation but the expert agreed with me that there was no certainty who was to blame, the mayor was supposed to be there when the lorry was unblocking and didn’t turn up, so I rang his wife to demand he came – he was not best pleased when he arrived  but I won the day and we agreed to go halves!

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    Fruitcake, you may remember me saying we had the same Micro system as you? Our contract with the maintenance company that came once a year to check the system also stated not to use products such as Eparcyl etc, I think Paul Robinson has given a very balanced view on the mouthwash. I would refrain from using activators just in case for some reason they don’t suit systems with cocoa shells, why they wouldn’t I don’t know, but there might be a good reason for it. :unsure:   I do know that to replace the cocoa shells if the system goes belly up and it’s because of not complying to the contract terms would cost about 2000 euros.

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    Yes, I did remember tigre and wondered what your thoughts were, it is this thing about them saying not to use the product that I was unsure about, so if the maintenance guy said it to you there must be a reason, as you say perhaps the cocoa shells don’t like it. It is a good system though, isn’t it? We’re more than happy with it.

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    Just had the fosse emptied prior to an inspection.Took the top off and no smell whatsoever.

    I use Domestos and Toilet Duck and have done so for years.The bleach says on the bottle that it is compatable with fosses.We have never had a problem.Sometimes I forget it isn’t on the mains.

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    Yes, I have used Domestos for that reason, you only have to read the labels on things and because a helluva lot of rural France properties have fosse septiques there is a big choice of products that are perfectly okay to use. When I mentioned bleach earlier I was speaking more of the Eau de Javel.

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    I think they are great systems, Fruitcake, compact, not complicated to maintain. I do however think that some of these contracts that seem to be obligatory ( basically insurance policies) with some of the Micro stations are a bit of a rip off.

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    Hi FC what loo paper do you use? I use a Eparcyle every 6 months dont use bleach, then to use eco friendly cleaning products as much as possible.

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    Hi rusty, I used to use Super U toilet rolls that said on the back of the pack that they were okay for fosse septiques but I have recently found that Aldi does a muti-pack that is safe for the fosse so now buy that.

    Tigre – we haven’t taken out a contract with ours (well not as far as I know!)

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    Oh that’s good FC I use Super U’s loo roll but will try Aldi just as long as we dont have to use the pink stuff !!

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    No you’re okay rusty, I always buy white  ;-)

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