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    Be it a titre de séjour, a carte de résidence or some other official document, who hasn’t got one and why? Are you of the ‘wait and see’ persuasion, your decision being that having one hasn’t been obligatory up until now, so let’s wait and see what changes? A short post to start with, to get responses.

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    Sorry VK I can’t respond as we have them, but have brought it back up to the top

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    Thanks, Fruitcake, had it gone down that fast? Bloody games! (joking, everyone!)

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    I am a lapsed carte de sejour owner had one from 1993 to 2007 then let it go as no one ever asked for it after initial jobs were secured ,now retired.Reapplied last month and have an interview in Nov as old age creeping on and they probably will ask for it if you go into hospital for anything more than a routine chech up

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    Marion how many did you have in that period?

     

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    We have decided to wait before jumping to it. Sounds like too much paper work and stress, so sitting back and waiting is our choice

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    Might have been just one,sorry got dates wrong from 1997 to 2007 .Just got them out please don’t ask why we didn’t apply in 1992 when we came over except maybe before 1997 we just worked in the private sector.I know I needed one to work in state schools Inspection Academique de Rennes.

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    We have decided to wait before jumping to it. Sounds like too much paper work and stress, so sitting back and waiting is our choice

    Liz went to St Brieuc today and on this forum we agreed it is a simple and quite painless procedure. Paper work will be at your disposal at home, as for stress, it really is quite easy to do.

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    Might have been just one,sorry got dates wrong from 1997 to 2007 .Just got them out please don’t ask why we didn’t apply in 1992 when we came over except maybe before 1997 we just worked in the private sector.I know I needed one to work in state schools Inspection Academique de Rennes.

    Ten year TdS straight away, probably due to your work requirement. Yes you needed a Carte (Titre) de sejour to be able to work and many French companies insisted on you having one, as did your working in state schools Inspection Academique de Rennes of course.

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    Both working full time, things aren’t that easy Rog! :-((

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    So it is your work and the RDV that makes it difficult for you to get to the Prefecture. It looks like a no deal or even a deal of some kind may still mean you need to get your TdS’s..

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    Like Marion, I have a lapsed one which ended in June 2012 and had been valid for 10 years  Motif du Sejour being Membre de famille.  It was the second one I have been issued, and until yesterday, I can’t ever really remember having been asked for it, though I am sure I have  ( a hospital visit required that I present it to them) . My renewal was applied for in mid August last and I was informed that I would be notified by sms to go to the SF in Lorient in about a month. Still no sign of the sms notification. Phoned up the SF and inquired why no notification a few days ago.  They replied by saying they have been inundated with applications, but that I would be notified to come and collect as soon as it becomes available. As regards length of TdS,  they were non-committal  about it. Shrug.

     

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    I hadn’t considered getting one, but scare-mongering and doom and gloom predictions are starting to make me wonder if I am being an ostrich. Who’s to say that the scare-mongerers are wrong? Maybe we need a bit of scare-mongering as a kick up the bum. Like buddylux, daily work is one reason why it’s not so easy to get things going and while you say, Roger, that the paperwork will be available at home, you don’t know the bordel that my paperwork is in!

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    Haha, perhaps a little effort on the bordel might be in order :laugh-rolling:  :laugh-rolling:  :cool:

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    I haven’t got one. I understand my nearest prefecture I can apply for one is Vannes. That is about a 5 hour round trip from here and when my friend rang to get an appointment was told in no uncertain terms I don’t need one. So it is rumour and counter rumour. At the moment everything is supposition and preparing for various outcomes. There are no agreements about anything. When the government have finished what they call negotiations, something that is completely alien to all of them, maybe the EU will tell us what will happen or maybe brexit won’t happen if no one can agree anything or even understands the complexity of the issues involved. I am playing the waiting game, I have all the necessary documents going back 14 years and when it is decided for certain what I have to do I will do it. Until that day comes I will carry on as I am. There is enough beaurocracy in France without applying for something I may never need.

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    Sorry John applying for a TdeS is not a rumour. The government have suggested that for UK nationals it would be in their interest to apply. I could name many Prefectures that are fully booked for the moment, Niort is so fulll as regards RDV’s that it is 2020 before any more RDV’s can be offered. Liz on here met two of my friends in the Prefecture in St Brieuc today, they are busy. It is 100% not a rumour. Whoever told you in Vannes there was no need should be reprimanded.
    This is the link for applying for a RDV in Vannes, you will see they are taking applications, I am afraid your friend is completely wrong, or the fonctionaire was playing silly games.
    TBH it is up to you but the suggestion is to apply but I suspect you will be fine doing it later.

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180601/why-brits-in-france-should-apply-for-a-carte-de-sejour-right-now

     

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    John – I may have been through this before on this forum – can’t remember.

    If you apply for a TDS before the 29th of March next year, assuming that the UK does actually leave the EU, your TDS will be free – no charge or cost except your own time and trouble – that’s because of the EU rules on citizen’s ID.

    If you apply after 29/03/2019, again assuming UK leaves the EU, you will be applying as a non-eu citizen, the fee will be €269 according to the current rules.

    Here is some advice from someone I know who lives down in the Haute Vienne. He is dead straight serious and if this is what he says – you can take it as the gospel truth.

    “I got my TDS in Oct 2016, and although I have used it from time to time as a form of ID, no-one has actually asked me for it. Yesterday I had a long chat with my local Mayor. He is my next door neighbour and he invited me in because I’m moving tomorrow ( 12th October) and he is very concerned about the way things are shaping up. We covered a whole raft of topics but we obviously discussed issues with the local U.K. immigrant population, and the right to remain in France. The TDS is valid until the date that’s on the card (in my case 2026) and they won’t change it retrospectively . Local Mairies ( inc this one) are advising British Citizens living here, to apply for them as soon as possible. If you’ve been here over 5 years you are also entitled to apply for Nationality ( dual Nationality) Those who don’t qualify either for the TDS ( and rules are being tightened esp on Income/support levels) or who have not been here 5 years by the time Brexit becomes official, will have to apply for the right to remain as a non EU citizen and follow the immigration path”

     

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    I am not bothering at the moment. We have been here ten years, have a French Driving Licence, pay all taxes so we are in that system and also in the health system. We are retired so the main concern is still getting access to the French Health System after March 2019.

    We had to show enough paperwork when we applied for the licence 4/5 years ago as proof that we reside here. So they have enough evidence as far as I am concerned.

    So I am just going to wait and see what happens. If  I am contacted by the French authorities at some time in the future regarding living here after Brexit then I will do what is required then if anything. This is because there are so many conflicting stories doing the rounds. When I get told something officially then I will comply. Not spending too much time worrying about it now.

     

     

     

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    Morning All

    “Those who have not been here 5 years by the time Brexit becomes official, will have to apply for the right to remain as a non EU citizen and follow the immigration path”

    Hi Fitter, This is why we applied for our CdS, as we will have been resident in France for just over 3 years at Brexit. It was a painless and quite quick process, took 5 weeks from start to finish.

    We thought it would be easier to have one, just in case.

    Andy

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    I appreciate what you are saying but there is NO deal on the table. According to the news this morning may is looking to extend the transition period for another 12 months. The government are SUGGESTING we apply for a CDS but the truth is no one knows. I have been here 14 years and have all the paperwork to prove it. I just feel that I would prefer to wait and see what happens, when and if there is a deal.

    I have read here that S1’s are now being issued with an expiry date of 29/3/2019. I applied for mine the other day and the lady I spoke to said this is not the case and mine would have open ended validity. I will find out when it arrives and will post on here the outcome but just another example of the uncertainty of everything at the moment. I am 65 in a few weeks time and I have better things to do than worry about what may or may not happen. This is such a complicated mess being dealt with by a shower of incompetent idiots who haven’t got a clue how to deal with it. It is my opinion that there is still a chance brexit will not happen because may will never get a deal that will be accepted by parliament but at some point there will be some kind of signed agreement and that is when we will know what, if anything, he have to do and I will do it.

    What is it they say? Calm down and carry on :laugh:

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    Both governments suggest that British citizens get a CDS .

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    I have an appointment for November 2019 (area 50)

    this is the earliest I can get (started sorting this in May/June this year)

    I travel for work not Just to the UK, but around Europe, so god knows what is going to happen

    for those of you in my position this link may help

     

    https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Brexit/Embassy-changes-contact-method-for-carte-issues

     

    I am in contact with the embassy , trying to sort this out

     

     

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    I logged on to get an appointment in Vannes (56) this morning. Contrary to what everyone had said ( i.e. fully booked for months etc.) I got one for next Wednesday morning so now I have to run around and get everything in order. I know that there are numerous sites saying you need this and that but if anyone here has actually been through Vannes Prefecture and would be willing to tell me exactly what I need that would be greatly appreciated.

    I ask because I do not want to make one silly omission due to misinterpretation and have a ‘the computer says no’ situation. :-)

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    Thanks Gleaner…….I was aware of that and have downloaded it myself. The thinking behind my earlier posting was that being increasingly an old cynic (I believe it happens to us all) I was posturing that there might be some difference between the theory and the reality.

    That said if I/we stick to the official line there can, in theory, be no argument.

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    Both governments suggest that British citizens get a CDS .

    It is the word “suggest” which indicates to me that they are just trying to placate people with some direction.

    If it makes someone feel more secure by applying for a TDS then go ahead. I am not at this stage convinced it will be necessary. Just my personal choice based on my gut feeling. I maybe right, I may be wrong,  there’s another uncertainty  :unsure:

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    My S1 has the 29 March 2019 date on it.

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    I am not convinced either John but as I still work here I sure as hell do not want to be told I no longer have the right to support myself and my wife. Therefore I shall pursue the TDS as although some effort is involved it is a safety measure.

    Which brings me back to my earlier request. According to the list of requirements it appears I only need to furnish five documents in section one and two in section two. This seems too easy as I had the impression that wads and wads of paper had to be supplied.

    Two specific questions please for those who have gone through the process:

    Do I need to get my birth certificate translated?

    The medical certificate provided by the ‘Office Francais d’immigration and integration’………what is that all about?

    Thank you in advance for any pointers.

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    I appreciate what you are saying but there is NO deal on the table. According to the news this morning may is looking to extend the transition period for another 12 months. The government are SUGGESTING we apply for a CDS but the truth is no one knows. I have been here 14 years and have all the paperwork to prove it. I just feel that I would prefer to wait and see what happens, when and if there is a deal. I have read here that S1’s are now being issued with an expiry date of 29/3/2019. I applied for mine the other day and the lady I spoke to said this is not the case and mine would have open ended validity. I will find out when it arrives and will post on here the outcome but just another example of the uncertainty of everything at the moment……….:

     

    John whatever the lady said about open ended, it will not be her choice about what is put on your carte vitale, reports by people that have recently been given their C.V’s are that it states 29/03/2019. No doubt depending on the outcome of Brexit things might change for the better….fingers crossed.

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    I am not suggesting anyone is deliberately posting incorrect information but that we are all being given misleading information depending on who you speak to. The confusion over the S1 is just another example. With the lack of any definate official agreement, everyone is putting their own interpretation on things whether that be government departments or individuals. It is a huge mess!

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