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    @whocares,  as  regards your first question;

    Do I need to get my birth certificate translated?

    It does say just below the header on the first page of the document which I posted the link to, quote

    L’étranger doit apporter les originaux, accompagnés d’une copie, des documents suivants (NB : les justificatifs doivent être accompagnés, le cas
    échéant, de leur traduction en français par un traducteur interprète agréé près une cour d’appel) :

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    the line after NB reads

    the supporting documents must be accompanied, if necessary, by their translation into French by an authorized interpreter translator at a court of appeal

    If unclear, please blame google translate

    In any case, I took my birth certificate in which had been translated some 16 years earlier by a registered professional translator. However, I think I am correct in remembering that someone on this forum, said that one doesn’t need it being translated.  If you can get the relevant documents translated into French, then of course, they must look favorably on that surely.

    As regards your second question;

    The medical certificate provided by the ‘Office Francais d’immigration and integration’………what is that all about?

    Which I take to refer to the line which states;

    Certificat médical délivré par l’OFII à remettre au moment de la remise du titre

    I’m afraid I can’t help you out with that, seeing as the recent application I made wasn’t for my first demand of a TdS. And I really can’t remember back to what was asked of me in the early 90’s. :wacko:

    Perhaps a query to your local doctor about such? :unsure:

     

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    Crikey, the more I read of this thread the more pleased I am that we don’t have to go through all this! Sounds a bit of a nightmare, although some seem to have found it perfectly straightforward – does it depend on the Préfecture? Mind you it shouldn’t make any difference, as what’s stipulated should be the same, shouldn’t it?

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    Quote  “….as what’s stipulated should be the same, shouldn’t it?”

    Edited to put your image in, Gleaner – VK

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    As i said in my previous post on this topic. I am going to wait until I am contacted by the French as regards my status. I going to let them worry about it.

    We were contacted by CPAM this year. They wanted us to confirm our address here. Nothing since. So personally I am going to sit back and await events. There have been so many different versions as to what is right and not right and what we should do and not do. Totally confusing.

     

     

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    Crikey, the more I read of this thread the more pleased I am that we don’t have to go through all this! Sounds a bit of a nightmare, although some seem to have found it perfectly straightforward – does it depend on the Préfecture? Mind you it shouldn’t make any difference, as what’s stipulated should be the same, shouldn’t it?

     

    It is straight forward Fruitcake, anything can be made to sound difficult but it’s really not. Many a person that trhought it would be difficult have been surprised by how simple it all is. If you had to try doing it years ago and before the incredible help of the  internet, then some things were difficult…. Yes things should be the same but when you get a group of 10 fonctionaires, the odds are that you will get 11 different answers. So times that by the regions/depts…. :wacko:

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    Thanks again for the advice Gleaner. I am not going to go on as I am a big boy but I ask because experience has taught me that there is the official line and the reality. If you think a TDS is tedious try getting married here. That was an experience. Setting up a company was easier although registering  a ‘profession liberale’ was a bit of a nightmare largely due to complications with RSI (as it was).

    So I do have experience hence the attempt to get all ducks in a row.

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    You hit the nail there Gleaner with your witty link.

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    @whocares, I didn’t go to Vannes, mine was at St Brieuc. I had the list of stuff relevant to my situation all printed out from the official website. There was no mention of birth certificate at all, so I didn’t take it (that and the fact I couldn’t find it), but the woman was insistent that she needed it. I showed her the list of stuff that was required and she just shrugged and said she needed it. However, she did carry on with the application, took my fingerprints etc and said I just needed to post a copy of my birth certificate (not translated) with a reference number she had given me and the application would go through fine. Hopefully if you turn up with one item missing they’ll do the same for you. I had about 10 bits of paper with me, copies and originals. She didn’t seem overly interested in most of it. Passport, siret number, medical and professional insurance, last tax return, EDF bill and of course the birth certificate were all she really looked at. Hope this helps.

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    Oh, and photographs.

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    @gleaner glad my sarcasm wasn’t lost on you! The link sums it up! Having dealt with the Préfecture in Angers and the one in St. Brieuc they definitely don’t sing from the same hymn sheet! Different Mairie’s differ with their info on different things too, as do the Municipal Police!!

    When we first applied 22 years ago it was, of course, totally different to now and when we went to St. Brieuc a couple of years ago it was very straightforward, although we were renewing, even so, we found the lady we dealt with very helpful, as I did forget something (can’t remember what now) which meant a 2nd visit but the dossier was all ready and no problems.

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    Thanks Tizzler.

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    Whocares, what did your employer have to say? I’m in a similar position to you, in that I’m employed by a French agence d’intérim and I’m loath to raise the issue with them in case they suddenly get all officious. On the other hand, I don’t want to get a phone call on 30th March next year saying I’m no longer entitled to work for them.

    As for getting married here, I didn’t find that complicated at all; getting divorced first was much more of a pain.

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    The prefecture in St Brieuc don’t require translations – I asked when I was there as I had heard so many conflicting reports. I was told that they don’t ask for translations unless the certificates are in arabic or one of the asian or african languages. I do realise that other prefecture may be different.

    I had my rdv 5 weeks ago, but haven’t heard anything from them yet. They didn’t ask for anything more than I had taken with me (but I did cover all bases!) so fingers crossed they’ve got everything they need. The only reason I applied is because I couldn’t afford the 269€ that it may have cost me after March 2019.

    It did take me while to collate all the documents – I took the originals of everything but did photocopies too and put everything into a file in the order that they appeared on the list of required information.

    My husband has applied for citizenship so we killed 2 birds with one stone as the information required for that is virtually the same as for a tds, so I just copied everything twice! He did need translations however (birth certificates – his and mine – wedding certificate, divorce decree absolute as well as wedding certificate for that marriage. The latter didn’t need translating though).

    So fingers crossed!

    Lippy

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    Thanks for that VK, I didn’t want to fall foul of copyright regs etc. You know how it can be these days.

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    As I saw it, Gleaner, it’s out there in the public domain and it’s not the first time I’ve seen it and frankly, we’ve all got more important things to worry about than copyright regs.

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    Lippy, is there a reason why your Husband is going for Citizenshp and you went for a TdS. The thing is securing a TdS is basically free?

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    There is an article in the Connexion  dated 18/10/2018 with the headline ‘ Media is wrong’, basically saying that social media has got things wrong regarding Visa’s etc. I think if like John P, Buddylux and VK it’s a pain and inconvenience at the moment to get a TdS then just wait and see. Somehow I don’t think you’re going to get a knock at the door asking you to leave at the end of March.

     

     

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    Roger, its just something he wanted to do. He has applied for dual-nationality.  There’s no saying he’ll get it but no-one can say he hasn’t tried. Me – I’m not ready to take that step unless I really have to. Whatever we have to do, we’ll do. We are fully in the French system, like many others – we work here, pay our social charges here, do our tax returns etc – and have lived here for over 10 years (19 yrs for me) so hopefully not much will change for us. But we just want to be prepared.  :unsure:

    Lippy x

     

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    Lippy, is there a reason why your Husband is going for Citizenshp and you went for a TdS. The thing is securing a TdS is basically free?

    It is free  until after 29/03/18.

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    Not necessarily, Fitter,  even if an agreement was reached which looks doubtful, the transition period from 29/03/2019 will be for 21 months, which means that all European laws will continue in that period up until the end of December 2020.

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    Roger, its just something he wanted to do. He has applied for dual-nationality. There’s no saying he’ll get it but no-one can say he hasn’t tried. Me – I’m not ready to take that step unless I really have to. Whatever we have to do, we’ll do. We are fully in the French system, like many others – we work here, pay our social charges here, do our tax returns etc – and have lived here for over 10 years (19 yrs for me) so hopefully not much will change for us. But we just want to be prepared. :unsure: Lippy x

    Good luck to him, Lippy. The conversation is fairly basic lasts up to 30 mins, a bit of history, and tbh from my experience everyone says the conversation was at the whim of the fonctionaire. You will never have to be a French citizen  Lippy, once Brexit is done & dusted and all becomes settled, reciprocation sorted, you can tell your Husband in a general election who to vote for and  don’t forget by registering yourself  early enough, you will be able vote in EU elections and local elections, which no doubt you knew.

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    Well although in the past I have had CDI contracts VK at present my regime means that I am semi independent so it is not clear cut. Anyway my employer simply said that they do not believe it will happen and not to worry.

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    Just one last entry as to why I have finally decided to get a TDS. Despite all the contradictory advice and opinion flying around I am convinced that for the sake of a bit of work it will make life so much easier. If you respect and work the system there can be rewards. Having spent many years being self employed and finding it near nigh impossible to get a bank loan for something like a car or a van I could not believe the change of attitude once I got a CDI contract. The banks throw cars and loans at you. I am not expecting a TDS to reveal a magic money tree but I know that it will smooth the path in some way whatever happens.

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    I think a TdS or CdS probably does come in handy to make life easier sometimes, it saves carrying your passport with you, but I think it’s fair to say that when it comes to important things such as bank loans etc it wouldn’t make any difference. Any bank or company offering loans will need proof of residency in the way of up to date tax returns along with a passport and other up to date documents as proof of residency. If you do have a CdS/T and you leave the country for two years or more, then return, effectively that card would be null and void, any reputable company would want a lot more.

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    Thanks Roger.

    Not too worried about the French conversation bit – bit more worried about him remembering the history etc  :yahoo:

    I did find on the Rennes prefecture website (I think) a document detailing the things he’s likely to be asked about- history, culture etc – so I’ll have to start drilling him (so to speak) and get him up to speed.  :whistle:

    Lippy

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    Funny old things, bank loans. To replace my car which failed its CT, I applied for a loan to La Banque Postale, a joint loan, mind you, me an intérimaire and Mme VK salariée on a CDI. Spent two or three weeks waiting and got a negative response the day after Citroen/Peugeot quite happily agreed to take us on for a 5 year LLD (Location Long Durée, HP if you like) for a car a year old. Better in hindsight, annual services and guarantee are part of the parcel.

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    We are both fairly sure they re not necessary but if you have the bad luck to be  admitted into  hospital it might be.I remember all the paperwork to fill in after a weeks stay ,this is Quimper Laennec . Is the Certificate Medical and Attestation from your secu? As for prefectures if you have the stamina to look on the Rift FB site you will see there are many variants on a theme as there are prefectures .Some even take thumb prints and want to know your family history from parents to brothers as well as adult children ! Quimper ,as far as I know and going back as many years as you can carry!

    Avis d Impot

    Taxe Foncier

    Taxe D’Habitation

    Electric Bill

    Water bill

    Passport

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    At Quimper you take your passport in to make the RDV .

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    Tigre, no, nobody is going to come knocking on your door.

    The rationale behind having a TDS is that it will make us easier to process by the French authorities once the UK leaves the EU as we will have, by the TDS application process, already have proved we are resident here legally.

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